I decided to look over the credentials and statements of the structural engineers (SEs), in AE911T. There are only 30,
Two to four seem to not really be SE’s. Charles Pegelow is no longer listed as a structural engineer and his now expired license was for civil engineering. Apparently Rich Reed recently earned his BS, is unlicensed and left his bio (and statement) blank. Albert Arey from Chicago is listed as being “Degreed and Licensed” and “Verified” but he is in the “Other Supporters and A&E Students” group, did not provide a license number and is NOT licensed in Illinois. He claims to have a degree from Ecole Centrale Lyon, which only gives degrees in general engineering, so he might be licensed in France. Other than his education his bio gave no indication what experience, if any, he has. The only work experience William H. Russell “Architect, Structural Engineer”, of Atlanta mentioned was as an architecture professor 1973 – 2006 but failed to disclose were he taught from 1979 onward. He claims to have earned his BA in architecture and MS in architectural engineering at the University of Illinois, Urbana and to have been an “Asst Professor” there 1973 -77. He also claims to be the holder of RArch#3454(GA) and “S.Eng#4161(IL,inactive)” both issued in 1977 but a he did not turn up in the IL or GA engineers databases*, the latter of which lists inactive licensees and used 9-digit numbers and like most states neither IL nor GA issues licenses for specific types of engineers so there is no way he could have earned a “Structural Engineering Registration” in either state in 1977 or any other year. Also it is hard to believe one of the prestigious architecture programs in the US would hire an unlicensed architect as an assistant professor which is a tenure track position.
Despite truthers using the excuse that they sign up so few engineers because many are afraid of being ostracized, marginalized, fired or otherwise persecuted with the exception of a guy who moved from Belgrade to London in 1989 AE911T does not have any SEs from Moslem, Communist, formerly Communist or anti-US countries (unless you count France).
Only 14 of them claimed to have experience with buildings and only one, Steven Merritt, cited tall buildings. Paul A. Thomas claims to have designed “concrete & steel structures to
Surprisingly only 3 mentioned NIST but only one or two seem to have read the report. The aforementioned Mr. Arey from Chicago simply said “The collapse was too neat to be ascribed to the official story and what was described in NIST report. A new investigation is warranted”, so I doubt he actually read it. His inability to spell out from an engineering perspective why he thinks the towers were CDed is yet another reason to doubt he really is an SE.
Bill Boggia and Ronald H. Brookman critiqued the NIST report in ways that suggest they actually read it (or at least articles by truthers who had). Boggia’s experience however is with offshore platforms. Brookman claims to have “over 21 years experience in structural analysis, design, evaluation and rehabilitation of buildings in northern California” but makes no mention of what types of buildings. Other than forums and truther sites the only mention of an engineer named Ronald, Ronald H. or Ronald Herman Brookman was the California Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors.
However like the others neither Boggia nor Brookman not Merrit nor Thomas have written a technical critique of the NIST report including calculations showing (or attempting to show) that it was flawed let alone gotten anything published in an engineering journal
To save space in the chart below I edited down most of their bios and statements, substituted numbers with numerals and used the following abbreviations: ME mechanical Engineer, CE civil engineer, BSe Bachelor Sci. Eng. (general engineering or field not specified), CD controlled demolition, BLD building, FF free fall, FTP footprint. All mentions of the NIST report and experience with buildings were included.
| Name | Loca tion | Deg ree | Lice nse | Experience | Statement |
| GA | MS AE | ?? | Architecture professor 1977 - 2006 | “too much information missing and misinformation included” | |
| Alfred Lee Lopez | MI | BS AE | yes | “48 years…all types of BLDs” | “I agree the fire did not cause the collapse of the 3 BLDs” |
| Antonio Arthay | FL | MS SE | SE BC | “15+ years of experience in BLD design” | “Fire and impact were insignificant in all 3 BLDs. Impossible for the three to collapse at free-fall speed.” |
| Charles N. Pegelow | CA | BS CE | CE exp | Offshore oil platforms | No AE911 statement previously critiqued the ASCE report but not NIST’s. Has gone on record saying he believes the towers well felled with “mini-nukes” |
| David Topete | CA | BS CE | CE SE | “residential, commercial and light manufacturing facilities” | “I am curious to … how [WTC7] collapsed, while no other adjacent structures suffered such fate.” |
| Dennis J. Kollar | MI | BS CE- SE | exp | “structural design of residential, commercial, industrial, and institutional structures” | “the most convincing aspect that the 911 collapse was a CD is the recorded explosions on the 9/11 Eyewitness DVD” |
| Edward E. Knesl | AZ | MS CE SE | CE SE | “35 years of experience domestic and overseas in commercial and transportation projects” | “Any tall structure failure mode would be a fall over to its side…We do not know the phenomenon of the high rise BLD to disintegrate internally faster than the FF of the debris coming down from the top” |
| John Charles Lewelling | TX CO | BS AE | CE SE | “35 years…hospital, office, retail, storage, industrial, airports(s)…public assembly,[schools]” | X |
| Kamal S. Obeid | CA | MS CE | CE SE | “Consulting structural engineer specializing in BLD and other structures design and retrofit.” | “Only recently have I begun to examine the structural collapse of the BLDs. Photos of the steel, evidence about how the BLDs collapsed,” |
| Lester Jay Germanio | TX | BS CE | SE | “5 years experience as bridge designer and self employed as design build contractor and SE for 20 years” | “I…have watched numerous video and films of the collapse since that time. It is and has been my opinion that the most probable cause of the WTC BLDs was CD.” |
| Marshall Casey Pfeiffer | CA | BS CE | CE SE | “SE in CA for 12 years designing Earthquake resistant BLDs.” | WTC BLD 1, 2, and 7 collapsed due to controlled demolitions, please investigate |
| Nathan S. Lomba | ID CA | BS CE | CE SE | “39 years…custom residential to heavy industrial structures …project for the USAF…Pulp Machine BLD…Natural-gas fired power plant” | How did the structures collapse in near symmetrical fashion when the apparent precipitating causes were asymmetrical loading? |
| Paul A. Thomas | AZ | MS Arch SE | yes | “Designed concrete & steel structures to ” “Mining & Industrial clients. Design concrete & steel structures, foundations” | The 2 towers, as they collapse, appear to be a CD event rather that a "pancake" type failure…molten steel found in the wreckage of the BLDs |
| Ronald H. Brookman | CA | BS MS | CE SE | “21 years experience in structural analysis, design, evaluation and rehabilitation of BLDs” | “NIST, FEMA and the 9/11 Com. have all fallen short of a detailed accounting of the catastrophic collapses” |
| Steven F. Dusterwald | NV | BS CE | yes | “Structural analysis and design…of BLDs and other structures” | “There was not enough energy delivered to the BLDs by the impacting aircraft to destroy all the structural materials.” |
| Steven Merritt | CA | MS SE | CE | “I have designed steel high rise BLDs for the past 8 years.” | “There seem to be a lot of unanswered ?s and it would serve the greater good to re-open the investigation.” |
| Albert Arey | IL | BSe | ? | ???? | “The collapse was too neat to be ascribed to the official story and what was described in NIST report” |
| Peter I. Staker | AL | BS | No | “degree in SE…worked as an Engineer for 40 years” | X |
| Foreign SE’s in AE911T | |||||
| Rich Reed | CA | BS | No | ??? | X |
| Bill Boggia | UK | BS ME | ME CE | offshore oil, gas, wind, wave and tidal energy projects. | “NIST structural simulations - are not…to final collapse and the failure mechanisms seem to have been manually adjusted…The pulling forces on the perimeter columns by the sagging floors were adjusted” |
| Bill Genitsaris | Aust. | BSe | yes | “structural engineer in the residential and commercial fields.” “demolition” | “If the pancake theory is correct, then as each floor truss disconnects from the columns…the columns should have remained in 1 complete length (ie over 100m long)” |
| Cyrille Houdebine | Frnce | MS | yes | “working as a SE in a subsidiary of the group SNC-Lavalin in Nice” | “The crash…caused the destruction of several columns …could have created a phenomenon of buckling in chain…it is impossible that this happen at the speed of a FF approximately” |
| Robert T. Mote | Can | PhD | yes | “Special interest in dynamic and explosion behaviour of structural elements and foundations” | “I could never understand the 'convenient' vertical collapse at the base due to an extreme event at height. I was most concerned by the 3rd tower collapse” |
| Erwin De Jong | Neth | MS | no | “offshore (steel structure) and aerospace engineering” | “it is not explainable that a steel structure sinks down into its own FTP with obviously no resistance" |
| Graham John Inman | UK | Yes | yes | “Member Institute of CEs | “WTC 7 BLD could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris…the fire..was small & localized” |
| John Watt | UK | BS | yes | “steel framed, masonry and timber BLD designs” | “very serious ?s to be asked about how 3 robust steel framed BLDs collapsed into their own FTPs…WTC7 not struck by an aircraft…relatively minor fire” |
| Paul W. Mason | Aust | BSe | yes | “35 years experience designing, constructing and maintaining major structures for state government agency” | “It is simply not physically possible for a structure to collapse at near-FF speed and, at the same time, pulverize all of its concrete and steel into tiny fragments” |
| Jason Mewis | Can | BSe | yes | “President and Senior SE w/ Engcomp for the past 27 years” Mostly industrial | “the official story of how the WTC collapsed doesn't make any sense from an engineers perspective” |
| Miroslav Kurkic | UK | BS | yes | “Consulting Engineer working in the UK since | “Convinced that the BLDs are demolished in controlled manner. As a SE it is so obvious to me.” |
| Richard P. Hall | UK | BS | No | “25 years experience in construction and structural design" | “There is no doubt the 3 BLDs were taken down by CD. To believe otherwise is to be willfully ignorant of the overwhelming evidence” |
* There’s a William J. Russell, also inactive in IL database residing in Murphysboro 4 hours from Urbana who like everyone else in it has a 9 digit number. There was no match for engineer’s license # 4161. There is a William H. Russell in GA engineer’s database but his license was issued in 1958, is # 4176 and shows an address in Mcdonough
Sources:
AE911Truth petition page
http://www2.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php
Engineer License Lookup
http://www.engineersguideusa.com/engineer_license_lookup.htm
Ecole Centrale Lyon engineering program English homepage
http://www.ec-lyon.fr/76957584/1/fiche___pagelibre/&RH=Programs
33 comments:
You should get paid for all the work you do to keep America safe from these truthers. Bravo, sir, bravo!
I know you will delete this but are you aware that that Osama Bin Laden is left handed? Well in the "confession" tape, he's eating, drinking, gesturing, and writing with his right hand. Plus, the guy looks nothing like any other pictures of Bin Laden. How can you people fall for such an obvious trick?
The guy above me is right. I've seen it and I'm not convinced. I have never heard a good explanation for this. What do you have to say about it?
9/11 was an inside job! 9/11 was an inside job! Your only proof is a fake blurry video with a guy that says,"Praise be to god" every 5 seconds. 9/11 was an inside job!
Go to youtube and see the video about 9/11 truthers that died in weird ways after 9/11. Can't provide link, sorry.
NANOTHERMITE IS NOT MADE IN CAVES IN AFGHANISTAN! IT WAS FOUND IN WTC DUST! WATCH THE VIDEOS! THERE ARE 100FT JETS OF BLACK SMOKE COMING FROM SOUTH TOWER! THEY LIED TO US! USE COMMON SENSE!
The government has staged incidents before to justify military action in other countries (war) such as the gulf of Tonkin incident. This kind of lie leads to massive loss of life on both sides. 9/11 was the new gulf of Tonkin. The new Pearl Harbor. Operation Northwoods proves that your government is willing to consider killing people and lie about it just to invade a country and kill more people.
1 month before 9/11, rule that allowed pilots to carry guns in the cockpit was removed without reason. What a coincidence.
The last 8 comments were made by the same person (me). Just thought I should tell you that.
In a system where anyone has the potential to be in government, eventually phycopaths and sociopaths will have absolute power whether you know it or not. 3,000 deaths is nothing compared to the lives lost in the wars. That's what they think of them as: casualties of war.
Ah, politics: Where GREED wears the mask of morality.
Here's a bit of history regarding our honorable government. Hawaii was overthrown by the U.S. Government while Hawaii was a recognized neutral, sovereign nation. A few, greedy anglo Hawaiian citizens ,Dole and Thurston, wanted to eliminate levies between Hawaii & the U.S. and also wanted to enjoy the liberties of the U.S. They approached a U.S. general who was aware of the strategic location of the Islands, especially during the military engagements of the Spanish-American War in the Pacific. Guam and the Philippines were taken from the Spanish eventually. The overthrow of Hawaii was crucial in the U.S.'s strategic plans. And although it is now known what the U.S. has done, do you think they are going to give back Hawaii to it's people? It won't. Hawaii is the location of the U.S.s Pacific Command. This bit of fact is not proof for allegations that the U.S. was involved in the 9/11 attacks. It is meant to get yo to think about your possible hidden presupposition that the U.S. is the honorable, defender of the weak. The U.S. is a proactive defender of the U.S. and all it's ideals, namely capitalism. It just uses the guise of defending weaker nations so it can proselytize it's capitalistic ideals to them. It's a betrayal with a kiss. Don't get me wrong, I love this country, but I'm not naive to think it's sole agenda is justice, peace, honor, and integrity.
It's nice to see someone logical and skeptical write a decent article about this. People without at least a passing background in Engineering or Architecture (or for that fact Math) really have no use commenting on these facts.
Thank you for a concise article. I'm sure you don't hear that enoug.
Echoing the guy above me, thanks again for doing due dilligence of looking up credentials. That kind of thing is underappreciated in the media/bloggers lately. Simple physics proves that the towers didnt fall at free fall speed. There is enough independent verified video of enough angles to make sound judgement on this with several mathematical equations.
Simply put if the truther engineers were serious, they would do as any real engineer would do; they would present their equations and ideas for peer review. 10+ years is more than enough time to present well thought out and formulated formulas about why "9/11 was faked". All I see is off hand and anecdotal evidence and any engineer who bases his career on such things is either a disaster waiting to happen or unemployed for good reason.
There is a key principle that needs to be understood. The law of conservation of momentum. All three building collapses defy the law of conservation of momentum, if the official story is to be believed. How can a building 110 stories tall collapse at near free fall acceleration? The buckling collapse of a columns at the affected zone do not explain the complete collapse of the entire building in under 20 seconds. Marshall Casey Pfeiffer
Casey,
"Near" free fall speed, is not free fall speed! The simple fact is (and shown in the videos of the collapse) that the main part of the building falls slower than the surrounding debris and dust cloud. That means that the fall of the upper stories was impeded enough to keep it from free fall. What I think you fail to account for is that the potential kinetic energy of the upper floors hitting each floor below it is massively higher than each floor can withstand!
Hi, thank you very much for help. I am going to test that in the near future. Cheers
No Win No Fee Claim
http://leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints
911 truth is a movement based on ignorance. If you believe in 911 truth you can't think for yourself, and you are with great company like the Boston Bombers who agree with 911 truth.
If a fire caused by planes can bring down two towers, and cause a fire which brings down a third building in sympathy, we need to be worried, not about terrorists, but about our engineers. Why aren't buildings falling down all around the world on a regular basis, whenever there is a fire?
its almost free fall, we're talking a second difference.
how do you propose each column, on every floor, blew out at exactly the same time, in order to achieve the symmetrical collapse in all three buildings?
how do you explain the molten lava
how do you explain firefighters, police and others saying there were explosions, detinations, countdowns etc etc
shall i continue?
I find myself wondering ...How did Osama know to attack while we were in the middle of a military excersize? How did a plane 40 feet wide make 16-20 ft hole in the Pentagon?
I'm also an engineer. But that really does't matter, because any guy that can think using his own head (not the head of others), knows by instint that a fire does not brings down a building like that (WTC7)...
Uneven Fire warps steel. Fire insulation on steel protects steel from fire. Some buildings use concrete which better protects steel from fire. Airplane strikes remove fire insulation, which makes steel framed towers vulnerable to thermal expansion and failure.
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when a car run full steam into a semi-truck what happens? Does the semi truck vaporize due to the momentum of the car. The strength of the building below the injured section of the building (ie top third) is two and three times stronger than the top floor. Another big thing about a building that size: when the building is that tall and skinny, it has to be over designed on a strength level well past the demand to have a system that is stiff enough to resist movement due to heavy wind loads. I hear from this article that the number one complaint (also mentioned by Norm Chomsky) is the desire to see a peer - reviewed paper written refuting the NIST report. that is a good comment, and sorry it has not been done yet. obviously NIST is correct because it is the first one to write a report. if it is not properly refuted, then the correct conclusion from those who are not experts in the field should take the NIST report as the best possible explanation. Maybe one day someone will fill out your request properly so that the information can be as acceptable as an authority figure like NIST. Until then ignore all of the other facts that have surfaced until a peer review white paper can be written.
As the Arabic world has, for its entire history, had shortages of fresh water, they have current hygiene practices. Because of fewer sanitary conditions for hand washing, they do not eat with, drink, or shake hands with the same hand they use to wipe (left). Would you want to eat with that same hand?
Middle Eastern and Islamic culture isn't hard to find out about these days, what with the internet and all. Why don't you try researching first?
Just gave you an explanation.
"This is an established principle in sharee’ah: that which has to do with honour and nobility, such as putting on one's garment and pants and shoes, entering the mosque, using the siwaak, putting on kohl, clipping the nails, trimming the moustache, combing the hair, plucking the armpit hair, shaving the head, saying salaam at the end of prayer, washing the limbs when purifying oneself, exiting the toilet, eating and drinking, shaking hands, touching the Black Stone, etc are all things which it is mustahabb to start on the right or use the right hand. As for things which are the opposite, such as entering the toilet, exiting the mosque, blowing one’s nose, cleaning oneself after using the toilet, taking off one’s garment, pants and shoes, and so on, it is mustahabb to start on the left or use the left hand. All of that is because the right hand is more noble and honoured"
https://islamqa.info/en/82120
If you've never heard a good reason, I suspect it is because you've never spoken with, or bothered to learn about Islam. The man in the video, Osama bin Laden, was following Islamic law.
That's because nanothermite isn't made at all...at least not in commercial production, and certainly not on the scale "Dr" Jones claims in his fraudulently and unreviewed report on paint chips, which claims there were nearly 100,000 tons of undetonated thermite found....yeah.
As for the source of the two ingredients found that Dicky Gage and the likes try to equate to thermite, they are aluminum and iron oxide (rust). You really think neither would be present in an iron building covered in aluminum?
In the 2012 investigation conducted by MVA Scientific, funded by bother truther movements and skeptic movements, Dr. James Millette found that the aluminium plates were 3 times larger than the maximum size for nano particles, meaning this absolutely was not nanothermite. Furthermore, they found that the aluminum plates were not independent. The only source of aluminum plates in these red/grey chips claimed to be thermite were in kaolin clay, a base for primer paint. The red/grey chips were a coat of grey primer (the typical colour) and red paint (used on WTC beams). Ironic hey? Guess what pigment makes red paint? Yup, iron oxide.
The fact that the chips looked exactly like paint and primer, contained the exact ingredients of paint and primer, burned at the exact temperatures of paint and primer, somehow proves thermite? Seriously?
Here are two questions you must answer if you are going to convince anyone these paint chips were anything but paint:
1. According to "dr" Jones et. al's fraudulent paper that has been removed from Bentham as a result of paying off someone to submit it behind the editor's back without peer-review, the dust samples contained 0.1% of this undetonated thermite. The WTC weighed about 500,000 tons. Ignoring the rest of the towers and destruction, and assuming only half of this was pulverized, that leaves us with a minimum of 250,000 tons of dust (about a quarter what was actually estimated to have been cleaned up by the way). 0.1% of 250,000 tons would mean there was 25,000 TONS of undetonated thermite. Overkill? You don't say. How did 25,000 tons of thermite not ignite, and how did it, plus what we can only assume would be more than double that much igniting, get shipped into the towers without anyone knowing? 25,000 tons is not a little bit. That is literally 50 MILLION pounds. How did more than 100 million pounds of thermite get placed in the towers, where did they hide it so no one would see, and how were the temperatures inconsistent with this much thermite, which burns at over 3000 degrees F?
2. Thermite is an oxidation reaction between iron oxide and aluminium. The oxidizer, iron oxide, is heated to a point it loses stability, along with the fuel, aluninium, resulting in the oxidation of aluminium, a chemical reaction that releases massive levels of heat (fire is also oxidation, just of combustable materials that oxidize at much lower temperatures than aluminium). Thus, the result of a thermite reaction is the oxidation of aluminium, meaning the byproduct (much like ash is in a fire), of all thermite reactions, is pure, elemental iron, and aluminium oxide. Thus, even if thermite were present and found unreacted, it could not account for the collapse unless it did react. This means if there was at least the same amount of ignited thermite as there was non ignited (o.1% according to the truther paper), then there absolutely MUST be at least 0.1% aluminium oxide found in the dust samples as well. Yet, even "dr." Jones' paper shows there wasn't. How can you explain the fact that the very paper claiming proof of thermite proves no thermite reaction occurred? Or do you have evidence of aluminium oxide found in the dust?
Failing to answer these questions, as truthers have for over a decade, just demonstrates that the thermite theory is bogus. Wood in a fire pit and no ash doesn't prove a fire, only the necessary ingredients. Likewise, thermite in dust doesn't prove thermite reaction, only the necessary indredients. Without the ash, there is no evidence of fire. Without aluminium oxide, there is no evidence of thermite.
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